Steve Kerby

Steve Kerby

Steve began his career 51 years ago by joining Northwestern Mutual Life (NML) during his senior year in college in 1970. Steve quickly learned that he had made the right decision because he genuinely cared about people. He liked helping people plan and to solve problems, making a difference in peoples’ lives, and that quality of company and product was of utmost importance.

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$26 Trillion. Does anyone see the Gorilla in the room?


The recent government decision to issue "floating-rate notes" (FRN) could dramatically and significantly affect our economy and our industry. The government plans to issue FRN with an adjustable rate reestablished every six months. Instead of fixed interest rate notes, this new approach would have a variable interest rate.

The Gorilla in the room is, of course, inflation. The danger is minimal as long as inflation is within its current range (yellow and the white line). But, if inflation begins to increase, the FRN approach to debt management could be a disaster for the US, our industry, and the economy in general.

US Treasuries now are issued (mostly) as 30-year notes, their attraction is simple and safe. As an offset for safety, the investor sacrifices yield, no risk equates to low interest.


The tie into the annuity industry is simple, US Treasuries are safe, and annuities are safe. The tradeoff is always yielded (Treasuries) and added benefits such as income riders, etc.


Now layer in the FRN, and what happens? The government has put its competitive advantage at significant risk because already in force notes (FRN) will need to adjust to satisfy the contractual agreement. By putting their competitive advantage at risk, we are also swept into the fray; the loss of our competitive position could diminish our advantage of safety over other investment options.


This affects the annuity industry in a very nasty way. Our current enforce annuities will be at a disadvantage because current interest rates offered by Treasury-backed investments will increase, and our clients will be trapped in lower-yielding products.


What are the chances of this happening? Simply history. Throughout history, inflation has never been able to rest; it always raises its head. The only option the government currently has to keep inflation at bay is what?


Issue more and more and more debt. (currently at $85 billion a month in new debt). The cycle is dangerous, and one thing we have learned over the years, the biggest guys will win.


FRN is a potential disaster and one that is not necessary and not currently needed. As inflation rears its head, the government will be forced to increase interest on the debt it has already spent the money on (the deficit).


How would you answer this question? How much is the annual interest bill on $21 trillion at 2% 4% more? How about 10%? (Remember Treasuries at 15% in the early 1980s?) Who will pay, and HOW will we, the taxpayers, be able to pay? Better yet, who is the real beneficiary of FRN's? It couldn't be taxpayers; could it be Wall Street? Will they chop these up in tiny pieces and resell them as they did with our mortgages?


Doesn't the government already issue this type of debt? I thought their name was TIPS. How can floating rate notes be any different unless the answer is simple? Maybe the government doesn't care about how much these instruments cost the taxpayers? Does that seem too farfetched? It doesn't seem to me, and the reasoning is simple, the more you spend, the more the future will be controlled. Look at the increase in our national military spending; look at the swing of the baby boomers from earners to retirees. Am I a doomsayer? No, I am merely an amateur historian; look at the debt this country has incurred since 2000.


Who is the largest buyer of the national debt? The biggest buyer of Treasuries is the Fed, doing it with printed money to keep demand up and bond yields down. This is the administration's (last 2) attempt to move the economy; an economy builds on low debt interest. So why issue FRN? If the Treasury had to go to the free market with 100% of its debt needs, it would undoubtedly face a much higher rate.


Of course, the critical question is fundamental. Who has allowed the Federal Reserve to buy this debt?  Our congress!


Now with debt over $26 trillion (but with an actual decreasing interest rate), would anyone think FRN would be a good idea? Bankers? Wall Street? Taxpayers? Who? If you owned FRN and wanted to sell, what would they be worth? How will they be traded? What happens to FRN if deflation occurs?

There are just too many unanswered questions, and unfortunately, those who are answering them have no one to answer to, The Secretary of the Treasury and the Federal Reserve.

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